+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8
Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By raa

Thread: Forex Psychology-Controlling Emotions at Forex

  1. #1
    marc walton's Avatar
    marc walton is online now Administrator
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Canary Islands
    Posts
    357

    Thumbs up Forex Psychology-Controlling Emotions at Forex

    Forex Psychology- CONTROLLING YOUR EMOTIONS AT FOREX, You can have huge financial resources, great trading strategies and systems, but if you cannot control your emotions while looking at your charts – you will lose!

    The following article was written by one of the members, Dan Low. Dan is a self- improvement & behavioral expert and his resúme is at the end of the article.

    Certain negative and positive emotions can cause havoc in our trading. Negative emotions like anxiety and fear can lower immunity systems, expose us to health hazards, lead to muddled thinking, but how can positive emotions cause havoc?

    Remember the times you felt elated and thought nothing could stop you and through over-confidence, you started doubling your stakes? Well, that can cause havoc when you run into a series of losses and begin doubting your strategies or yourself. You may even panic when incurring heavy losses suddenly.

    So what do we do to control emotions?

    One effective way: avoid looking at your charts too often once you entered your trades. Since we are in a subconscious state in front of our computers, emotions are likely to swing up and down at what we see.

    How many times have we suffered through the day only to end up winning! Was it worth the anxiety and stress inbetween? It is time and energy lost while we indulge in the emotional see-sawing. It is OK only if we are masochistic and relish in self-inflicted pain!

    As you understand, emotions are powerful resources that drive you either up or down. They drive you up when you find yourself elated. They drive you down when you are
    depressed or discouraged.

    Whether we are driven up or down is a matter of random triggering of data or perception in the subconscious mind. In the subconscious mind are spontaneous thoughts of the past and the future.

    If you regret having lost yesterday you are dwelling in the past. The past is gone and is now a passive "illusion" having no correlation with the present. It is just a thought or a series of random thoughts that can trigger regrets, discouragement or discontent.

    If you worry about tomorrow you are projecting into the future which is also an illusion, as no one knows for certain if he or she would live to see another day. Hence, thoughts of the past and the future are just passive illusions. However, not all illusions are negative.

    If you had a series of wins yesterday your passive illusions could influence your conduct today, making you more confident or content. But what if you had lost? How would you deal with a negative past situation which can be harmful to your trading today?

    Let's imagine that if you physically turn your head to the left you would be turning to past or future thoughts. If you turn your head to the right you would be turning to the present – here and now. You can turn your head to the left as long as you are focused on past or future positive data or experiences. But the second you get hit with negative emotions or feelings you should turn your head to the right – be here and now! And leave the subconscious world of illusions.

    You are here and now when you focus intensely on one or two objects around you. You can consciously turn your thoughts to what you have now. This very moment you have time. You have energy. With these two precious resources you can create fresh opportunities, plan new trades.

    No matter what happened in the past you put your counter back to zero and set new strategies in action. Of course this would mean turning your head again to the left, but you would then have greater control as your thoughts towards the future are focused and not random.

    This left/right head turning exercise is one way to control your emotions at Forex. By shifting and focusing on the moment you are also mastering illusion. As mentioned earlier, all our thoughts of the past and of the future are nothing but illusions.

    To understand this better here are two examples of past or passive illusions.

    A man was locked in by error in a cold storage room. Believing himself to be a prisoner of the cold, this man instantly felt its deadly effects – he froze up and became paralyzed.

    During his agony, he managed to find enough strength to write his impressions on the wall with a piece of chalk. When his body was discovered the next morning, it showed all the signs of a man frozen to death.

    This tragic accident turned out to be extraordinary when it was discovered that the electric generator of the storage room was out-of-order, and that therefore the man should not have died from cold. Yet, he killed himself... by the sheer force of his conviction. Or illusion!

    Second example: John got fired on Monday. But last Friday (3 days ago), the president of a rival company had signed with a recruiter to hire John with a 50% increase in salary!

    Unfortunately, the recruiter fell ill over the weekend, and John will not be given the good news till a week later. Imagine how John is feeling today, tomorrow, and the day after. He already feels bad, his productivity drops, and he has a despondent expression all day long.

    John, like the man who froze himself to death, is suffering from an illusion, an illusion that has nothing to do with reality. That is, he has a job offer in the works far superior to what he is presently earning. He should have a cheerful expression! But John has fallen victim to his own illusion, just like the man who killed himself in the storage room.

    Passive illusions are all the past experiences recorded in our subconscious. If we think we can't do anything or believe we can, we are dwelling within our passive illusions, as we are reacting subjectively to past experiences. Hence, we could have positive or negative passive illusions – depending on our experiences.

    Whenever we are in the process of doing something, like changing our behavior, or simply trying something new – we are in our active illusions. Once we have acquired these experiences – positive or negative – they form our body of passive illusions. You can therefore create whatever active illusion you want – and test it.

    In other words, you are the producer, director, and actor of your own life. Whichever active illusion you create and put into action will be your reality, because you will be mentally and physically living it. By mastering illusion you not only control negative emotions but pick yourself up each time you lose at Forex. You stay cheerful, knowing that you have time and energy to create new opportunities and play again.

    Important factors that help control emotions while you trade are your ability to:

    put your counter back to zero by turning your head from left to right
    not look at charts too often once you entered your trades
    not be greedy and double your stakes through over-confidence
    accept losses as part of the game
    not get into situations where you are pressured for results
    stick to your plans and strategies.

    All these could be made easier if we can also be patient and disciplined. However, these two key factors are often absent in traders. You may want to read the article on "How To Develop Discipline & Patience In Forex".

    Lastly, we need to know what types of emotions are common. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association lists four major emotions which give people the most trouble: anxiety, fear, anger and depression.

    These are often triggered by the Gang of Four (G4). The four most dominant subconscious thoughts roaming the back alleys of our minds while we trade: You want / You can't / What's going to happen / You're going to lose.

    As we all know positive emotions such as joy and enthusiasm are to be encouraged, but emotions like anxiety, fear, anger and depression are counter-productive and need to be
    contained by understanding how they are triggered.

    Take anger for instance. If you lose a trade and feel revengeful and seek to take back what you lost by overtrading, your emotional level spikes up immediately. This could worsen into anxiety and depression if you lose again, and again. The G4 is great at dumping us in hell!

    What you need is a DDD pill.

    DDD stands for Desireless Diet Day, a psychological pill that stops our negative emotions and puts us in a positive thinking mode. You simply cut down on desires you can't immediately fulfill, like wanting to win, hoping the market would go your direction. And many other desires outside trading. A pill a day makes you happy and gay!

    So, just focus on what you have now. As long as you can continue to trade you will be in a You want / You can mode. This way, you will be less likely to be attacked by the Gang of Four.

    You will feel good each time because you are focusing on what you have – not on what you would like to have: more money!

    This means managing paradox. Your goal may be to make money but to do so you need to completely forget about it, and simply enjoy the process: planning the trade and trading the plan – with patience and discipline – and no emotion!
    __________________________________________________ ________________________

    Dan Low, a self-improvement and behavioral expert at SelfGrowth.com, is also a corporate trainer. He spent more than 25 years helping individuals control negative emotions and life situations through Eastern / Western behavioral modification techniques and is the author of «Maximize Your Potential with Powerful Tools... And No Stress».

    Discover how and download your free PDF copy at: Maximize Your Potential With Powerful Tools

  2. #2
    Eliza is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    35

    Default

    Thanks for sharring this, it is a really intresting topic and article.
    Eliza


    Quote Originally Posted by marc walton View Post
    Forex Psychology- CONTROLLING YOUR EMOTIONS AT FOREX, You can have huge financial resources, great trading strategies and systems, but if you cannot control your emotions while looking at your charts – you will lose!

    The following article was written by one of the members, Dan Low. Dan is a self- improvement & behavioral expert and his resúme is at the end of the article.

    Certain negative and positive emotions can cause havoc in our trading. Negative emotions like anxiety and fear can lower immunity systems, expose us to health hazards, lead to muddled thinking, but how can positive emotions cause havoc?

    Remember the times you felt elated and thought nothing could stop you and through over-confidence, you started doubling your stakes? Well, that can cause havoc when you run into a series of losses and begin doubting your strategies or yourself. You may even panic when incurring heavy losses suddenly.

    So what do we do to control emotions?

    One effective way: avoid looking at your charts too often once you entered your trades. Since we are in a subconscious state in front of our computers, emotions are likely to swing up and down at what we see.

    How many times have we suffered through the day only to end up winning! Was it worth the anxiety and stress inbetween? It is time and energy lost while we indulge in the emotional see-sawing. It is OK only if we are masochistic and relish in self-inflicted pain!

    As you understand, emotions are powerful resources that drive you either up or down. They drive you up when you find yourself elated. They drive you down when you are
    depressed or discouraged.

    Whether we are driven up or down is a matter of random triggering of data or perception in the subconscious mind. In the subconscious mind are spontaneous thoughts of the past and the future.

    If you regret having lost yesterday you are dwelling in the past. The past is gone and is now a passive "illusion" having no correlation with the present. It is just a thought or a series of random thoughts that can trigger regrets, discouragement or discontent.

    If you worry about tomorrow you are projecting into the future which is also an illusion, as no one knows for certain if he or she would live to see another day. Hence, thoughts of the past and the future are just passive illusions. However, not all illusions are negative.

    If you had a series of wins yesterday your passive illusions could influence your conduct today, making you more confident or content. But what if you had lost? How would you deal with a negative past situation which can be harmful to your trading today?

    Let's imagine that if you physically turn your head to the left you would be turning to past or future thoughts. If you turn your head to the right you would be turning to the present – here and now. You can turn your head to the left as long as you are focused on past or future positive data or experiences. But the second you get hit with negative emotions or feelings you should turn your head to the right – be here and now! And leave the subconscious world of illusions.

    You are here and now when you focus intensely on one or two objects around you. You can consciously turn your thoughts to what you have now. This very moment you have time. You have energy. With these two precious resources you can create fresh opportunities, plan new trades.

    No matter what happened in the past you put your counter back to zero and set new strategies in action. Of course this would mean turning your head again to the left, but you would then have greater control as your thoughts towards the future are focused and not random.

    This left/right head turning exercise is one way to control your emotions at Forex. By shifting and focusing on the moment you are also mastering illusion. As mentioned earlier, all our thoughts of the past and of the future are nothing but illusions.

    To understand this better here are two examples of past or passive illusions.

    A man was locked in by error in a cold storage room. Believing himself to be a prisoner of the cold, this man instantly felt its deadly effects – he froze up and became paralyzed.

    During his agony, he managed to find enough strength to write his impressions on the wall with a piece of chalk. When his body was discovered the next morning, it showed all the signs of a man frozen to death.

    This tragic accident turned out to be extraordinary when it was discovered that the electric generator of the storage room was out-of-order, and that therefore the man should not have died from cold. Yet, he killed himself... by the sheer force of his conviction. Or illusion!

    Second example: John got fired on Monday. But last Friday (3 days ago), the president of a rival company had signed with a recruiter to hire John with a 50% increase in salary!

    Unfortunately, the recruiter fell ill over the weekend, and John will not be given the good news till a week later. Imagine how John is feeling today, tomorrow, and the day after. He already feels bad, his productivity drops, and he has a despondent expression all day long.

    John, like the man who froze himself to death, is suffering from an illusion, an illusion that has nothing to do with reality. That is, he has a job offer in the works far superior to what he is presently earning. He should have a cheerful expression! But John has fallen victim to his own illusion, just like the man who killed himself in the storage room.

    Passive illusions are all the past experiences recorded in our subconscious. If we think we can't do anything or believe we can, we are dwelling within our passive illusions, as we are reacting subjectively to past experiences. Hence, we could have positive or negative passive illusions – depending on our experiences.

    Whenever we are in the process of doing something, like changing our behavior, or simply trying something new – we are in our active illusions. Once we have acquired these experiences – positive or negative – they form our body of passive illusions. You can therefore create whatever active illusion you want – and test it.

    In other words, you are the producer, director, and actor of your own life. Whichever active illusion you create and put into action will be your reality, because you will be mentally and physically living it. By mastering illusion you not only control negative emotions but pick yourself up each time you lose at Forex. You stay cheerful, knowing that you have time and energy to create new opportunities and play again.

    Important factors that help control emotions while you trade are your ability to:

    put your counter back to zero by turning your head from left to right
    not look at charts too often once you entered your trades
    not be greedy and double your stakes through over-confidence
    accept losses as part of the game
    not get into situations where you are pressured for results
    stick to your plans and strategies.

    All these could be made easier if we can also be patient and disciplined. However, these two key factors are often absent in traders. You may want to read the article on "How To Develop Discipline & Patience In Forex".

    Lastly, we need to know what types of emotions are common. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association lists four major emotions which give people the most trouble: anxiety, fear, anger and depression.

    These are often triggered by the Gang of Four (G4). The four most dominant subconscious thoughts roaming the back alleys of our minds while we trade: You want / You can't / What's going to happen / You're going to lose.

    As we all know positive emotions such as joy and enthusiasm are to be encouraged, but emotions like anxiety, fear, anger and depression are counter-productive and need to be
    contained by understanding how they are triggered.

    Take anger for instance. If you lose a trade and feel revengeful and seek to take back what you lost by overtrading, your emotional level spikes up immediately. This could worsen into anxiety and depression if you lose again, and again. The G4 is great at dumping us in hell!

    What you need is a DDD pill.

    DDD stands for Desireless Diet Day, a psychological pill that stops our negative emotions and puts us in a positive thinking mode. You simply cut down on desires you can't immediately fulfill, like wanting to win, hoping the market would go your direction. And many other desires outside trading. A pill a day makes you happy and gay!

    So, just focus on what you have now. As long as you can continue to trade you will be in a You want / You can mode. This way, you will be less likely to be attacked by the Gang of Four.

    You will feel good each time because you are focusing on what you have – not on what you would like to have: more money!

    This means managing paradox. Your goal may be to make money but to do so you need to completely forget about it, and simply enjoy the process: planning the trade and trading the plan – with patience and discipline – and no emotion!
    __________________________________________________ ________________________

    Dan Low, a self-improvement and behavioral expert at SelfGrowth.com, is also a corporate trainer. He spent more than 25 years helping individuals control negative emotions and life situations through Eastern / Western behavioral modification techniques and is the author of «Maximize Your Potential with Powerful Tools... And No Stress».

    Discover how and download your free PDF copy at: Maximize Your Potential With Powerful Tools

  3. #3
    julianj's Avatar
    julianj is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    96

    Default

    Hi Eliza,

    Thanks for posting. I feel I should put forward a small criticism - it wasn't necessary to requote the whole post, I think it is better use of the forum to only quote the parts of a previous post you want to critique or reply to. Otherwise we all end up scrolling around unecessarily,

    Hope this helps

    cheers

    Julian

  4. #4
    Nudge's Avatar
    Nudge is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    19

    Default

    This is a fantastic book and I suggest everyone read it.

  5. #5
    capsmart's Avatar
    capsmart is online now Forum Leader
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Kos, Greece
    Posts
    1,730

    Default

    I agree.

    I like the reminder at the end of each session.
    "We read and we forget - We do and we understand"

  6. #6
    Nudge's Avatar
    Nudge is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    19

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by capsmart View Post
    I agree.

    I like the reminder at the end of each session.
    "We read and we forget - We do and we understand"
    Yes that is so true, I have always been one to learn by doing.

  7. #7
    raa
    raa is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    offline
    Posts
    1,965

    Default

    Found this pretty good description on T2W forum:

    Winning breeds winning. Losing breeds losing. This is a statement that everyone has heard in one form or another but let's have a look at why. Here is an example of what is likely going through a trader's head during a winning trade, but following a losing trade.

    Example 1:
    First trade, lost $100.

    Current trade, up $30...up $40...up $50...stalling....
    Once your trade reaches that stick point, you feel excited at the probability of closing out a profitable trade. The problem is that you won't, because you think you should be patient and wait for it to reach $100 so you can wipe that nasty trade off your account for the day.

    Current trade, back down to $40...back down to $30...back down to $20...back down to $10... hits the break even stop loss with a gain of $5.

    You ended the trade with only $5.

    Example 2:
    First trade, won $100

    Current trade, up $30...up $40....up $50...stalling....Close out!

    You ended with a $50 profit. This is because you didn't need to make up for anything. You were happy just to add to the winning trade and it helped you to not hold on too long.


    The moral of the story is that anything you can do to forget a losing trade is beneficial. The more it sinks into your mind, the worse you will trade and the more you will try to recoup that in greedy ways. You get what you get and you don't have a fit, ever heard that one as a kid? The market stalls for a minute and starts going back down, close out. Let yourself be one step closer to the overall goal.

    It's been rehashed over and over, but I thought it could use another rehashing because I am a scalper on some trades and would like to see more people become comfortable with the idea that it can be done and done well. Psychologically, most people cannot handle it but just like anything in life, it can be practiced and mastered within reason.
    Scalping Psychology | Trade2Win Forums

  8. #8
    raa
    raa is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    offline
    Posts
    1,965

    Default

    Actually I read about it in many behavioral economics books ( I adore it), this is the effect of risk taking based on previous events: if you lost you are prone to increse risks even feel that after this loss even if you lose much more it is ok since it's already bad, hardly can be worse, and if you won you feel good, accomplished and need not to accept an extra risk for something that is not substantial gain anyway.

    I did feel same during my last endeavors with hedging: when you see a large chunk of you account in red (was up to 30% at time) you have this strange feeling that it is ok now to take even more outrageous risk and risk remaining 70% to recover 30%, since it is all that bad and even if you lose whole account it will be same bad feeling like from 30%..

    Very very dangerous. I think after any substantial loss it is much better to turn off PC and run away, do something else for the day or for the week.
    capsmart likes this.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Automated Trading Psychology
    By Simon in forum Forex Robot Tests
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 27-01-2012, 10:26 AM
  2. Forex Trading Psychology – The Main reason Why Forex Traders Fail
    By marc walton in forum Trading Psychology
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-01-2012, 04:33 PM
  3. A Brief Look at Forex Trading Psychology
    By marc walton in forum Trading Psychology
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-11-2010, 09:40 AM
  4. Trading Psychology
    By Simon in forum General Discussion on Forex Trading
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 15-07-2010, 01:11 PM
  5. W.D. Gann on Emotions in Trading
    By marc walton in forum Forex Articles
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 29-06-2010, 12:08 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts